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BlueGuy (Ten years in the joint)
#1: May 14th 2024 at 9:37:41 PM
The image currently on Sequel Number Snarl was added by Ngp3 without any previous forum discussion. In addition, even on its own merits, I don't think it really illustrates the trope: the trope is about un-numbered installments in a series making it so that Numbered Sequels don't accurately reflect how many installments there are overall, but Final Fantasy X-2's name clearly indicates that it's a sequel to Final Fantasy X. Even if the numbering is confusing, when viewed in a vacuum, anyone would assume that X-2 comes after X. (Not to mention that I don't think you'd need to use the entire box art when the page is focused solely on titles.)
As for suggestions for a potential replacement, the only thing I could think of would be using fellow Square Enix series Kingdom Hearts. The most concise approach would be something like "Kingdom Hearts logo (#1) —> Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories logo (#2) —> Kingdom Hearts II logo (#3)," which gets the gist of the trope across without being overly long.
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FSharp Useful Note Since: Jan, 2019 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
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#2: May 15th 2024 at 12:30:03 AM
Pull regardless of suggestion. Also, I support the idea of making that image with the Kingdom Hearts logos.
Edited by FSharp on May 15th 2024 at 3:30:50 PM
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#3: May 15th 2024 at 12:41:31 AM
To be clear, Changed Without Discussion only applies to pages that had / have had images before. There's no rule that requires people to get discussion for images otherwise.
I don't mind pulling if it's unclear, but the current misconception that IP is necessary in all cases is a bit of a pet peeve that I needed to clarify here.
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StalkerGamer Memetic Loser Mother Since: Dec, 2021 Relationship Status: Love is an open door
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#4: May 15th 2024 at 2:39:22 AM
Pull
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#5: May 15th 2024 at 1:25:00 PM
I'll give a for the Kingdom Hearts idea
Earnest Since: Jan, 2001
#6: May 15th 2024 at 5:24:52 PM
Here's a go using Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories, Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days, Kingdom Hearts χ and Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep. I can rearrange to a 1x3 if this is too crowded.
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#7: May 15th 2024 at 5:29:32 PM
Yeah, I'd try a different arrangement. I didn't even see the numbers.
Edited by WarJay77 on May 15th 2024 at 8:29:56 AM
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#8: May 15th 2024 at 5:52:19 PM
Sure, here's a couple of 1x3's. Not sure whether X or Chain of Memories looks better / is more readable. I like X better for the green, but it might make people think it's a "10" like FFX .
8.1
8.2
Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#9: May 15th 2024 at 6:05:32 PM
I would like it to include some of the numbered sequels as well. Otherwise, it just looks like there is no numbered sequels for it to mess up. I was thinking of something like this:
Not pictured the multiple sequels between all three.
Edited by Bullman on May 15th 2024 at 8:07:25 AM
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#10: May 15th 2024 at 6:07:40 PM
9
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#11: May 15th 2024 at 7:27:46 PM
Would arrows help or detract from the image?
Either way, 9 is pretty good
BlueGuy (Ten years in the joint)
#12: May 15th 2024 at 7:32:11 PM
x9 (post 3): For what it's worth, I did check to see if there was anywhere to raise concerns about images added to pages unilaterally, but I couldn't find anything. (I'll admit "poor image" may have been a better choice here.)
Getting back to the matter at hand: I made my initial suggestion into a proper image. The reason I chose the first three games in the series was because I felt like it would be the easiest to comprehend without requiring familiarity with the series. This isn't to slight the image in post 9 (), which also works, but I feel like it's a little less direct without including their release order. (Also, while I'll admit my caption here is kind of dry, I wanted to make it clear that Chain of Memories is a proper sequel and not a spin-off or something similar.)
First game → direct sequel → third game, numbered II.
Edited by BlueGuy on May 15th 2024 at 10:32:27 AM
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Bullman "Cool. Coolcoolcool." Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
"Cool. Coolcoolcool."
#13: May 15th 2024 at 7:32:22 PM
They would probably help. But I can't do that right now as I am not home right now.
I mean I went with the ones I did because there is still a whole lot of sequels between them. That said I like yours better than mine.
Edited by Bullman on May 15th 2024 at 9:37:15 AM
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Earnest Since: Jan, 2001
#14: May 15th 2024 at 7:45:30 PM
We could probably use release year just slightly above and to the left of the hearts in the logo rather than numbering, but FWIW I think readers will interpret vertical order as release order.
Just for fun, we could add "and fourth in chronological order." to the end of the caption.
Edit: Ugh, I forgot how convoluted the series is. It's: 1, COM, 358/2 then 2.
Edited by Earnest on May 15th 2024 at 7:51:43 AM
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#15: May 15th 2024 at 9:02:19 PM
Aight, 12 is prolly the best so far now, though release years would benefit.
Edited by taotruths on May 15th 2024 at 9:16:22 AM
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#16: May 15th 2024 at 9:09:46 PM
Release date is what matters for this, not chronology (this isn't Anachronic Order). Kingdom Hearts II was released in 2005 and 358/2 was released in 2009.
Edit: And the actual claim that Kingdom Hearts 2 is fourth in the chronological order is really wrong; so wrong that I wouldn't even want to figure out where Kingdom Hearts 2 actually places in chronological order.
Edited by thok on May 15th 2024 at 9:12:16 AM
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#17: May 16th 2024 at 1:15:27 AM
12 for now.
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Spark9 Since: Nov, 2010
#18: May 16th 2024 at 1:18:50 AM
Do we have a version where the II in the KH logo is easier to read? It's so stylized that it's easy to miss.
Drope Since: Oct, 2012
#19: May 16th 2024 at 6:33:34 AM
I found this infograph on the internet and I think the titles are more clear here. There is also a literal release timeline with actual dates.
Also more interesting to look at than same-y logos.
Edited by Drope on May 16th 2024 at 6:35:25 AM
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#20: May 16th 2024 at 8:15:47 AM
Switching vote to 19.
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#21: May 16th 2024 at 8:23:38 AM
19
taotruths Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#22: May 16th 2024 at 8:41:52 AM
i think 19 works
GracieLizzy Since: Dec, 2012
#23: May 16th 2024 at 8:48:14 AM
19
CompletelyNormalGuy Am I a weirdo? from that rainy city where they throw fish (Oldest One in the Book)
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#24: May 16th 2024 at 11:38:53 AM
19 works.
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#25: May 16th 2024 at 12:02:24 PM
19
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